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For Science! Ask for volunteers to conduct tulpa-related research, or post and discuss your experiments here. If you are researching a topic not directly related to tulpas, fee free to post in #general-discussion Forum link to the Research Board: https://community.tulpa.info/forum/5-research/
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Reguile
What sort of thing are you looking to research?
how mannerisms in tulpas and headmates deviate from the host. how they develop. how many systems needed to practice or if it came naturally. things of that sense.
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I would pick one question and focus on that one
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Or two, the relationship between two things
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Maybe throw in dummy questions so we don't know what you're trying to determine as answers, and throw out the other data
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can I DM you Reguile so I can bounce potential questions off of you?
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Vibes ->✨👥| 3/20/2021 6:33 PM
Could yall fill out this survey and send it to your friends? I would like to get as many responses as I can. Thanks! https://forms.gle/XZED4CkZGpXbWhrJ9
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Can you give some more info so I know what I'm spending my time on?
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A long kiss goodnight 3/20/2021 7:20 PM
Is the host supposed to take this survey? I noticed some of the demographic questions could have applied to me or my host.
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GlassFirefly 3/25/2021 5:41 PM
I think it can be taken by anyone, not only hosts
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The dude left.
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Sussy
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A theosophy text? Interesting.
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I've seen some of this art before, interesting to put it to a source. At a glance the text seems to refer to meditative hallucinations on certain emotions rather than thought-forms as we would use the term. On the topic, I actually wonder how much tulpas are even accepted in theosophy proper, given that the only reference to such is from one theosophy text. I suspect any given theosophist is just as likely to go "wut?" at the mention of tulpas as an average Buddhist.
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Oh and yes, the religion does still exist, from what I understand.
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A long kiss goodnight 1/31/2022 7:53 PM
This is something I wrote for my guide awhile ago, but I may as well make it public (If I haven't already?) Worst case scenario, I doubt I posted it on Discord recently:
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Switching Interview Questions: 1. How do you define switching? 2. Do you think your idea of switching is different from other systems? 3. What is it like to be switched-out and switched-in? Are there any significant differences or similarities? 4. How do you think switching works? 5. Does the idea of different types of switching make sense to you or are you skeptical of the idea? 6. How did you learn how to switch? 7. Were there any significant barriers to learning switching? If so, how did you overcome them? 8. How is switching similar and/or different from other ways to control or be connected to the body? Do you have any unique fronting experiences that are different from switching? 9. What do you think is the most important advice a system learning to switch should know? 10. Is there anything about teaching switching that frustrates you? CREDIT: How should I credit you? Would you prefer I quote or paraphrase your response(s) and leave a citation, keep your response anonymous, or should I leave your response(s) out of my switching guide? FEEDBACK: Are there any questions you have for me or anything else you would like to discuss about switching?
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Howdy, I wrote these questions a while ago and planned on using them to interview systems in DMs. However, I realized that it was easier for the respondents to give me the answers all in one go. If you would rather PM or DM me your responses, please feel free to do so! I wrote all of the question...
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Can I PM' you the answers? I think they'd be kinda huge haha'
7:58 PM
Also - can I send each in a different message, for ease of replying to a specific point in case you have further questions?
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A long kiss goodnight 1/31/2022 7:58 PM
Sure, no problem. Take your time, I need to get up myself (edited)
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berockly (TTG) 5/3/2022 2:29 PM
no questions are required to be answered if you do not want to answer them. this is for me to get a general progress report of the proccess. its a bit generic but it helps me out
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Unfastened Belts 5/4/2022 3:30 AM
The person who assigned it to you probably could and should (edited)
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Can someone help me choose a concept paper topic that I can implement 1. The Controversial Issue of Physician-Assisted Suicides in Relations to the Right to Die 2. Is what was considered healthy in the ancient past still considered healthy now? 3. Are Traditional medicine really effective as treatment for Diseases
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limeee
Can someone help me choose a concept paper topic that I can implement 1. The Controversial Issue of Physician-Assisted Suicides in Relations to the Right to Die 2. Is what was considered healthy in the ancient past still considered healthy now? 3. Are Traditional medicine really effective as treatment for Diseases
The right to die is a great topic, and it's the only one that doesn't seem to have an answer, so go with that one.
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I'd agree. The other two are extremely cut-and-dry.
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A good back-and-forth paper with real arguments on both sides is better.
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But I can't think of an implementation for this one
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anyone have a concept about medical technology?
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Tato - [They] {Them} 5/6/2022 6:03 AM
I believe this channel is more for conducting tulpa research, rather than asking for medical paper topics. That being said, you could look into the effectiveness and efficacy of fMRI vs competing kinds of imagining such as fNIRS
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Hello! I am currently working on a research paper about fast fashion and its consumers. My data collection method is in the form of interviews. If you are willing to participate please DM me. Your participation will help me graduate high school :)) Thanks!
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Hello friends, I’m a current fourth year in psychology student trying to write my thesis, and I need more people to participate in my study. My research project is investigating the associations between early life experiences, personality, self-compassion, depressive symptoms, attachment styles, generalised and social anxiety, parental support, empathy, and romantic relationships. I’m are looking for people aged 18 years or older to complete a 30-40 minute survey. By taking part in this project, you can elect to enter the draw to win one of ten e-gift card vouchers worth $25AUS. Participation in the study and sharing this with your friends, would be very much appreciated! The link to study is below: https://federation.syd1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_82fccuIwwodKqqi This research has been approved by the University’s Human Research Ethics Committee: Approval number 2022-084.
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A long kiss goodnight 7/5/2022 1:02 PM
Ah, #tulpa-research is dedicated to tulpa research. However, I think #general-discussion is a better place (and coincidentally has an appropriate title) and I replied there Edit: Was originally #research, but it was changed recently (edited)
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Kia ora! We are undergraduate psychology students at Auckland University of Technology. As part of our ‘Research Project’ paper, we have designed a study which looks at the relationship between the factors of empathy, transportability and creativity. We are currently recruiting participants. In this survey, you will be asked to complete two self-report scales, both relating to empathy and your experiences of reading. Finally, you will be asked to complete a short, simple activity, and instructions will be provided as you progress to that stage. This research will help us to understand how reading may influence certain traits such as empathy and creativity. You can complete this survey on any device that can access the internet. Participation is anonymous and it will take about 15-20 minutes to complete the survey. The link to this online survey is: https://aut.au1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_cUwF2G7iVDK1rr8 (edited)
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Unfastened Belts 9/27/2022 12:24 AM
Doesn't seem directly tulpa-related. You may want to post this in #general-discussion instead 🙂
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Hi! I don't wanna be that guy, but unfortunately I still need responses for my AP Psychology class, if you're a sophomore, junior or senior in high school could you take my survey please? It's COMPLETELY anonymous, don't worry, it takes only a few minutes and I really need it for my grade. Link: https://forms.gle/b5Lz5jHErYbsNPa86 Thanks so much!
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Shit, can't we're in middle school
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A long kiss goodnight 10/4/2022 11:51 AM
Okimaey was directed to the wrong place, but otherwise please post tulpa-related research here. Reminder that a tulpa is another person you share your mind with. If you want to submit a survey asking tulpamancers questions, that's okay here too!
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I don't know if this can be considered within the research topic but here's the deal... I was an active tulpamancer 10 years ago and then everything slowed down because of my career and needed to focus, so what I did was (I don't know if its the right term) 'force' my tulpae so each one of us would specialise in different aspects of life, today I'm a 27 y/o engineer who is good at sports, leads a development team while being a dad and a real estate agent. I am not sure if it's because of what I did back then but it does feel that all of a sudden I was good at many things I was not before, over time my tulpae disappeared (or I can't reach them) I started to think they merged back with me (?). Anyways you guys are more fresh with all this as i totally forgot about tulpamancy when life kicked in.
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Point being: I ended up believing that tulpamancy is a great way to dissociate yourself into different 'colors' and allows you to have different perspectives on the same topic
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I don't know if this can be considered within the research topic but here's the deal... I was an active tulpamancer 10 years ago and then everything slowed down because of my career and needed to focus, so what I did was (I don't know if its the right term) 'force' my tulpae so each one of us would specialise in different aspects of life, today I'm a 27 y/o engineer who is good at sports, leads a development team while being a dad and a real estate agent. I am not sure if it's because of what I did back then but it does feel that all of a sudden I was good at many things I was not before, over time my tulpae disappeared (or I can't reach them) I started to think they merged back with me (?). Anyways you guys are more fresh with all this as i totally forgot about tulpamancy when life kicked in.
@Fork - jump i think you should give yourself more credit to the successes in your life and not put all the credit to tulpamancy. and i do agree with your point
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A long kiss goodnight 10/14/2022 10:42 PM
Welcome back @Fork ! It's nice to see someone come back and share their experiences! I think it's pretty common for tulpas to integrate or merge with their host over time. Sometimes the system figures out that being plural isn't a good fit for them and they just naturally integrate or become median, or their headmates see themselves as a facet of their host. I'm wondering if by having your tulpas expose you to new experiences, you realized you were capable of doing a lot of stuff and you put effort into those other skills, making you more developed overall. I'm honestly more curious how you managed to have your tulpas focus on different areas. We found living a double life is so frustrating due to the compartmentalization we snapped and are coming out of the closet (edited)
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well, to be honest i just gave them distinct personality traits and how those are reflected in their way of thinking and solving issues, from there they deviated as they were, eventually i found myself thinking "what would NaCl do if he was here?" and BAM!, i just nailed it through. it was a rough ride overall, and many mixed things are in these memories.
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A long kiss goodnight 10/14/2022 11:47 PM
it was a rough ride overall, and many mixed things are in these memories.
That sucks to hear, I'm sorry man
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nah i'm cool with it
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Dawn 🕯 BOT 11/16/2022 12:32 AM
From one of the Reddittulpas mods who are in contact with the Stanford tulpa study team: "What is an fMRI study? functional MRI works by imaging the brain in voxels, and measuring the neural activity within each voxel over a set amount of time. This measurement is relative, not absolute. It shows how active neurons are compared to other neurons. More specifically, it measures activity against a seed voxel. This choice of voxel varies from study to study, but it's the point where all the other gradients are judged against, ie is this block of neurons more or less active than the seed. What does this mean for the tulpa study? The tulpa study has proven to have some interesting results, because the active neurological systems changes wildly depending on the seed voxel used. While it's subtle, eg not huge lit up areas like someone on a psychoactive drug, it's distinctly expressed in various different parts of the brain. The results then, while under review and polish for publishing, is that the human brain does express a tulpa differently than a host, but in ways that aren't distinctly clear yet." Tldr: we now have evidence of tulpas as being different from hosts to some capacity. The official study is not published yet but is very close to finished.
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A long kiss goodnight 11/16/2022 9:10 PM
This is quite exciting, but Gray and I don't want to celebrate yet. We want to wait until it's peer reviewed first
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 11/16/2022 9:18 PM
I wonder if they will mention any comparison to how differently brain works depending on the subject you think about, about trying to take someone else’s perspective, talking in different language and things like that
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A long kiss goodnight 11/16/2022 9:18 PM
That would be really interesting. If it doesn't, I hope new studies spring up from this one
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A long kiss goodnight
That would be really interesting. If it doesn't, I hope new studies spring up from this one
that would be the best
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A long kiss goodnight 11/16/2022 9:20 PM
Indeed. While the results do sound surprisingly exciting, I think there is good reason to be skeptical of this study. It's the first one, never assume something is correct just because you like what you hear
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 11/16/2022 9:20 PM
I hope they say more than „brain works differently depending on who is fronting” because that would be very disappointing. Brain works differfently if you think of a flower or listen to music
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Dawn 🕯 BOT 11/16/2022 11:55 PM
To be fair music actually does have a very interesting effect on the brain that has a long history of study, the flower one is fair though
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
I wonder if they will mention any comparison to how differently brain works depending on the subject you think about, about trying to take someone else’s perspective, talking in different language and things like that
I don't completely remember what they used for the control on my own brain, but I do remember doing a control test when I was under the fMRI. they also had a group of people without tulpas under the fMRI being a control but I forget what it was.
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This was like, early 2020
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What was fun was asking for the raw data from my scan after the study, and I did bioinformatics on my own brain
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Pleeb
What was fun was asking for the raw data from my scan after the study, and I did bioinformatics on my own brain
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 11/18/2022 12:48 AM
that sounds cool!
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
I hope they say more than „brain works differently depending on who is fronting” because that would be very disappointing. Brain works differfently if you think of a flower or listen to music
they have to show that they can systematically differentiate tulpas from hosts, if they just show that brain works different between tulpas and hosts, thats like: -nifty "duh, we have completely different personalities, ofc brain works different" -katie (edited)
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Forum link to the Research Board: https://community.tulpa.info/forum/5-research/
For Science! Ask for volunteers to conduct research, or post and discuss your experiments here.
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This isn't what this channel is for
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1:55 PM
Hi friends!!
1:57 PM
This study looks at tulpa collectives and makes a really good point thats along the lines of "If plurality can be created naturally, then the main 'issue' of DID/OSDD isn't the plurality, but the dissociative symptoms etcetc. The plurality of OSDD/DID is a part of the coping mechanism (or something like that)." There was also another point I saw where 'tulpamancy' is the adding on of 'personalities' where as DID/OSDD is a '''''split''''' aka, less than one personality.
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Can you tell I'm going into a psychology major?/hj
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Let me know what you think though :)
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OH ALSO There was a point made where one participant has schizophrenia, and the tulpa can identify between hallucinations and even help ''''get rid'''' of them
1:59 PM
Since theres not a lot of research on tulpamancy, i feel like this is really good in making a lot of points that anti endos have
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Also, people with tulpas DONT WANT DID. The point of tulpamancy is not to create a system to glorify it. I thought I had OSDD, had faux-symptoms and it was the fucking worst. No one wants trauma, no one wants to be a DID system. Theres a MASSIVE difference between someone creating a thought-form companion to help with pre-existing disorders and someone saying "I'm a DID/OSDD system without trauma, heres my danganrompa and dreamsmp alter teehee" that is mocking, not tulpamancy.
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Can you also tell I have recently been called delusional, psychotic, racist and ableist for having tulpas I created accidentally by someone who was by my side and enabled the entire process of me freaking out and thinking I'm going insane?
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They also claimed I 'roped them into my psychosis' so that was...........fun (we roleplayed as our ocs while playing games, like...verbally, thus forcing their creation even more and they were an OSDD system....with tulpas but they assumed the tulpas were never real so)
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ANYWAY ramble over I hope the journal article is helpful, let me know what you think
2:05 PM
It has its limitations obviously, but its helpful nonetheless
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"There are similarities between these advanced tulpamancy techniques and the experiences of DID diagnosed folk, namely having multiple identities and dissociating from the body’s actions. However, the absence of amnesia, depersonalization, and other traumagenic symptoms in most tulpamancers make these techniques a reportedly positive and mutually enjoyable experience."
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Sorry for the bad pic, its in the journal article if you wanna peep
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THIS THIS THISISISFUFYUHSDHBJFDJSKIH
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"Dissociative Identity Disorder is misperceived as a condition rooted in its most outstanding symptom: multiplicity. In reality, DID is a traumagenic condition, with the multiplicity, amnesia, and other symptoms being a coping device or consequence of trauma or abuse [16]. The impact of trauma and the resulting function-impairing symptoms are what make DID a disorder, not the plurality"
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People dislike endos because they choose to be a system and have this disorder without trauma, which is impossible, what is/could be possible, is plurality without trauma, because that does not cause the dissociative and other symptoms that a traumagenic system would have. I feel anyone that dislikes the tulpa community for being endo does not want to think that this phenomenon could be a possibility, just because those people aren't 'suffering' as much as them. I hate endos that claim to be DID systems with trauma, but tulpamancy is extremely different.
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Its just unfortunate most people don't realise that faux-symptoms (caused by the glorification of DID) and thought-forms (made to improve mental health) are not the same category, and in fact, I dont even want tulpa collectives to be called endos (even though its true....to some extent) because some tulpas (mostly walk-ins) can be TRAUMA ENDUCED!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm really really sorry if this isn't the right channel, I'm now realising that HJDFHJDS
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I'll take it to tulpa discussion or resources if need be
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I love this topic, I just wish there was more scientific understanding on creating tulpas and such
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People discuss the multiplicity of DID/OSDD first because thats what makes the disorder """"""""""""""""unique and interesting""""""""""""""""""""" (im so sorry), when the main part of it is the dissociative amnesia and such
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"The intent of this paper is not to provide definitive assertions on the psychology of tulpamancy. Rather, the purpose is to accentuate outstanding associations and suggest further research into them. Garnering an understanding of tulpa phenomena may not only allow us to identify and further apply its therapeutic properties, but also add to the understanding of the human cognition, its plasticity, and the nuances of psychopathology. The highest suggestion of this research is to further investigate tulpa and plural phenomena."
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AND THE BEST PART OF THE PAPER
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"One respondent diagnosed with Schizophrenia writes how his tulpa can not only identify between hallucination and actuality, but that they developed a technique that allows the delusions to be “zapped” away. There are reports of tulpas alleviating the desire to perform irrational routines in individuals diagnosed with OCD, and others claim that their tulpas innovated workarounds for their dyslexia. A system with DID even detailed how making a tulpa improved their functioning and ability to work together because the tulpa was unaffected by amnesia and could communicate otherwise unattainable information between alters."
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I am so sorry I am very happy and excited I can say "FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! HERES PROOF BITCH" to anyone that doubts me AHAHAHHAHAA
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Also because tulpas can be made accidentally and without even knowing what tulpas are, it is evidence that it can be a natural process, which i find it kind of weird to call a closed practice and therefore racist etc (even when its not even discussed nowadays) thats like calling practicing any kind of meditation racist. They both originate from south asia, benefit mental health, and is a natural state of mind to be in (a meditative state).
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Its not a very good comparison but you get the idea
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Was Jade's paper even legit though?
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What do you mean?/lh
2:49 PM
If you mean how reliable it is, considering it is one of the only studies done on this topic, I'd say about 70-80%
2:52 PM
It was done using questionnaires, which is kind of shitty to begin with as it relies on self-reports, however it makes sense as it is not a disorder, but there are other ways to do it. There is also a very small sample size of 63 collected from tulpa.info and reddit and such, and wasn't public for people to have faux responses.
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Alejandro
Was Jade's paper even legit though?
I'm not sure if you're talking about something else because the person who wrote the paper is called Jacob/gen lh
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